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Florence
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02/19/2014 09:29Did God say this?".........or I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and
fourth generation of them that hate me;" Exo. 20:5
Just wondering if God said this because there is still the belief that the sins of parents will continue to punish their generations later? Or is this a belief?
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Andrew
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02/19/2014 10:04Re: Did God say this?".........or I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;" Exo. 20:5
See what S&H says:
MOSES. A corporeal mortal; moral courage; a type
of moral law and the demonstration thereof; the proof
that, without the gospel, — the union of justice and affec-
tion, — there is something spiritually lacking, since justice
demands penalties under the law.
Edited by Andrew - 02/19/2014 10:13
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jacob45
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02/19/2014 14:24Re: Did God say this?Well, we know from sociology that children from disfunctional families and a bad background are unlikely to "succeed" in life, exceptions confirming the rule. And besides the mental contagion then there is the contagion of syphilis and other diseases that carry on for several generations. So there must be some truth in this warning.
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Peter
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02/20/2014 13:58Re: Did God say this?I hope God didn't say that, or I'm sunk.
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A T M
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02/20/2014 18:44Re: Did God say this?Peter, you are a miracle, succeeding where no mere mortal could!
"I'm sunk"..... Priceless!
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Andrew
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02/20/2014 19:58Re: Did God say this?I hope God didn't say that, or I'm sunk.
I'm sorry but I don't get it.
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Peter
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02/20/2014 20:23Re: Did God say this?Well ... seriously, is it God's law for generations unborn to be doomed for their ancestors' sins? Or, is it the human condition until someone breaks the cycle? If God is no respecter of persons, then this couldn't be God's law. Certainly you see in the lineage descriptions in the Bible, sons who did well in the sight of The Lord, even though their fathers did evil. So maybe this is along the line of, "the only way to stop sinning is to stop sinning." I
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Florence
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02/21/2014 11:17Re: Did God say this?Well, we know from sociology that children from dysfunctional families and a bad background are unlikely to "succeed" in life, exceptions confirming the rule. And besides the mental contagion then there is the contagion of syphilis and other diseases that carry on for several generations. So there must be some truth in this warning.
Isn't any truth in this line of thinking tied to the world belief of man's origin in matter? This is the belief that stretches to the point where labels are given to children and lower academic performance is expected because of poor family circumstances. I wonder what the results would be if a teacher went into class everyday and saw all his/her students as God's ideas possessing all the qualities of God?
When Truth is known and the cycle of such thinking is broken(as stated elsewhere) results would be different.
This is why the right foundation, man's spiritual origin must be known and all like Christ Jesus must behold the perfect man in thought! If Christian then I must do what Christ did!
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parthens
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02/21/2014 13:16Re: Did God say this?Mrs. Eddy on "Ascendency of goodness" & "Propensities inherited"
"The good in human affections must have ascendency over the evil and the spiritual over the animal, or happiness will never be won. The attainment of this celestial condition would improve our progeny, diminish crime, and give higher aims to ambition. Every valley of sin must be exalted, and every mountain of selfishness be brought low, that the highway of our God may be prepared in Science. The offspring of heavenly-minded parents inherit more intellect, better balanced minds, and sounder constitutions.
"If some fortuitous circumstance places promising children in the arms of gross parents, often these beautiful children early droop and die, like tropical flowers born amid Alpine snows. If perchance they live to become parents in their turn, they may reproduce in their own helpless little ones the grosser traits of their ancestors. What hope of happiness, what noble ambition, can inspire the child who inherits propensities that must either be overcome or reduce him to a loathsome wreck?
"Is not the propagation of the human species a greater responsibility, a more solemn charge, than the culture of your garden or the raising of stock to increase your flocks and herds? Nothing unworthy of perpetuity should be transmitted to children."
(Science & Health, p. 61:4 - 28, with paragraph headings)
Edited by parthens - 02/21/2014 15:29
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jacob45
370 posts Location:
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02/22/2014 09:38Re: Did God say this?We ask did God say this? "The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children´s teeth are set on edge." Jer. 31:29 and Eze. 18:2.
The curse of mortal mind is passed on from generation to generation, humanity is wallowing in this awful unreality, so, yes, this is true.
Mortal mind is the opposite of God, good, the opposite of Spirit, so it is a lying, deceiving spirit, which seems to hold humanity in an awful bondage, from which only the Christ can bring release.
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Luetuck
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02/22/2014 17:23Re: Did God say this?I'm with you on this Peter. I think the key words are, "Those that hate me".
God will visit all our inequities, no matter who you think your parents are.
The Truth is..are we as their children, their image, or are we the image and likeness of God?
We must turn to the Right , NOW.
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richato
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02/23/2014 08:59Re: Did God say this?I think as long as we look to a human father and a human mother then perhaps there is "visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me." But when we look to God as our Father and Mother that cannot be true.
Galatians 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Edited by richato - 02/23/2014 09:00
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